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The BDP, the pro-PKK “political” party (former DTP), which is racist and ultra-nationalist, aims at dividing Turkey, and Osman Baydemir’s last declaration proved it. The BDP is the lawyer of the terrorist organization the PKK. It is essential to underline that the Kurdish issue and the PKK terrorism are two different issues, and of course the PKK does not represent the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens.

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The PKK kills people almost every week, but the so-called politicians of the BDP remain silent, or say this: “The killings of the PKK are a revolutionary violence”. How dare they say that? That is very appalling. Most of the so-called politicians of the DTP/BDP (Ahmet Türk, Selahattin Demirtaş, Osman Baydemir….) are nothing less than collaborators.

Mr Baydemir also said that: “We want our Kurdish flag to be at the side of our Turkish flag. We want an autonomous Kurdistan, as we want an autonomous black sea…..”. Mr Baydemir has to know that Turkey is not like Germany. In Germany there isn’t any terrorist group like the PKK who kills the German citizens in order to create a new state. Mr Baydemir is a collaborator, thus he certainly has no credibility. Mr Baydemir has to know that the Turkish state is united and that no autonomy will ever be on the Turkish horizon. First the autonomy, then the flag, then a “Kurdish state”?

The PKK assassinates people almost every week in Turkey. Since Mr Baydemir doesn’t curse the terrorist attacks of the PKK, he should go to Irak or to Afghanistan, where he would realize better what terrorism means. If Mr Baydemir is not happy in Turkey, he should settle in some countries of the European Union where he would earn more money, since the PKK collects money with impunity.

Well instead of trying to provoke everybody in Turkey, instead of supporting the terrorist group the PKK, instead of aiming at creating chaos, instead of aiming at dividing the secular republic of Turkey, Mr Osman Baydemir should at last do his job and try to resolve the issues of the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens of southeastern Turkey.

In fact, the problem of the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens is not a so-called Kurdistan. Their true problems are of course unemployment (as everywhere in Turkey), but also their honour killings or their polygamy which are more common in southeastern Turkey than elsewhere. Thus, Mr Baydemir (as well as his very laughable colleagues) should stop their horrible propaganda and concentrate their energy on these issues. They would help turkey.

The PKK claims that it’s been killing people for 30 years “because the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens have no cultural rights”. That’s a big lie. Who can believe that insane explanation? So since there was no Kurdish TV or no possibility to learn the Kurdish language at schools or at universities, the PKK assassinated thousands of people? That’s crazy. That is a ridiculous lie which is far from being credible. That’s a lie that aims at making the PKK credible. The PKK doesn’t care of culural rights, it even kills Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens.

There are some Kurdish citizens who support the PKK because the PKK wash their brain and take advantage of poverty in order to gain their support, but most of the citizens of Kurdish origin don’t support that terrorist group. The PKK does not represent the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens. Let’s remember several huge Kurdish demonstrations in 2004 in several towns of southeastern Turkey: people did curse the PKK.

The greatest problem with the Turkish media is that they are used to showing us the clashes between the police and the pro-PKK people, and not too often the Kurdish-rooted citizens who curse the PKK. The PKK wants to divide Turkey, that is not a secret. It is helped by foreign powers. Most of the politcians of the BDP, who are said to be intimidated or threatened by the PKK, don’t curse the murderers of the PKK, while at the same time want “autonomy”. If they want autonomy, it’s because they object to the unity of the republic of Turkey. They only want to provoke mayhem.

Now that there’s a Kurdish TV, which is a revolution, they want “autonomy”. In France Alsace, Brittany or Normandy don’t want of any autonomy, but the so-called politicians of the BDP want one. Lastly, unemployment hits everybody in Turkey, but no Turkish citizen near the Black sea, at Istanbul, at Ankara or at Izmir want any autonomy.

No condition can be imposed to Turkey from the terrorist organization the PKK. The PKK is not in a situation to hold talks with the Turkish state, because it is a terrorist group. The terrorists of the PKK must disarm. The PKK must disarm and it has no single right to ask for anything to the Turkish government or to the Turkish state. The PKK is not a country. The PKK is lying and the truth is that it is losing power, that’s why it is afraid. That’s why its supporters in the world and in the EU are afraid. The PKK is making its usual propaganda. Anyway, the Kurdish issue is already being resolved through dialogue. And Turkey will invest more in education, that being vital for the southeast of Turkey.

Another piece of propaganda from the BDP

A country can not lay down its arms. A country has soldiers so that they protect its citizens. Only terrorists can be expected to lay down their arms. The extremist politicians of the BDP (former DTP) are like the extremist politicians of the MHP, but the BDP supports or at least tolerate the murderers of the PKK. The Kurdish opening of the Turkish government is successful and it is not finished yet. For those who are not aware, a national Kurdish TV channel was launched almost 2 years ago. That is a hystoric but not much taken into account step.

The Kurdish language is about to be taught at schools and at universities. The Kurdish language is already used at theatres. Thence the collaborators of the PKK/BDP and their supporters in the EU must be very upset of the successful Kurdish opening. What will the BDP do? What will it suggest to the citizens? It will not be able to wash the brain of the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens anymore. In other words, the politicians of the BDP will be on the dole.

Here is an article from Joost Lagendijk

I quote Mr Lagendijk: “The problem with Baydemir’s speech is not with the content but with the timing and the way it was presented.”

I do not agree with him at all. What I have written above is my comment to his article, I hope that he read my opinion.

Let’s remind that the European Union has made pressure on France for years about the minority languages charter. But France still does not want to implement it. France officially said to the EU: “We don’t want to implement that charter because we want to preserve the national unity of France”. But when Turkey states that it wants to protect its national unity, it’s like the end of the world. Well why aren’t the journalists dealing with that refusal of France? Because France is a democracy?! When it’s about Turkey and its Kurdish issue, the journalists do not hesitate to blame it. In fact, pointing one’s finger at Turkey and accusing it of being the source of many problems is in fashion. The truth is that many people are whether subjective or ignorant about the Kurdish issue.

Let’s also remind that there are nearly 90 Kurdish-rooted Turkish politicians in the Turkish parliament. Perhaps more. I know that at least two former presidents of Turkey were of Kurdish origin. There are Kurdish-rooted politicians in almost every political party. There are many Kurdish-rooted businessmen. And there are loads of journalists of Kurdish origin too. These journalists don’t support the BDP/PKK, because they support life and Turkey’s territorial integrity. Thus, the Kurdish-rooted Turks exist well and truly in Turkish politics and in the media. But Mr Baydemir, Ahmet Türk, and Selahattin Demirtaş and their collaborators want only one thing: to divide Turkey and create a Kurdistan. Let’s underline again what Mr Baydemir did say: “We want an autonomous Kurdistan”. He did not say: “We want autonomy”, which is different. There is no virtual Kurdistan in Turkey but there are Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens. Anyway, Mr Baydemir should remember that private kurdish TV channels and radios will be launched too. So he should stop his immoral propaganda.

Some lobbies and some journalists want to make the EU citizens believe that there is a war in Turkey. There is no war or civil war in Turkey, because the PKK does not represent the Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens. Why? Because the PKK is a terrorist group. The Kurdish-rooted Turkish citizens are not terrorists, they are citizens of Turkey.

I do hope that the generals (like the traitor to the republic Kenan Evren) who made the military coup in Turkey 30 years ago will be judged. And Turkey has the duty to investigate about all the murders during its period of chaos. These murders are being discussed on many turkish TV channels. That is a great step. Furthermore, many people linked to the Ergenekon case confessed their involvment to some murders.

To put it in a nutshell, Turkey is changing at a fast pace. Within two years Turkey will have improved itself much more. The partial reform of the constitution is not enough, however it is a positive step that will enable the establishment of a brand new constitution. And within 10 years, Turkey will be a much better democracy. It will be a more harmonious country. I’m convinced about that.
A national Kurdish channel that broadcasts varied programmes 24/24 was launched more than one year ago. Is that a failure? No, it’s an incredible event. But the pro-PKK people and other dark lobbies and media deny that hystoric and symbolic event. In 2000 nobody would have believed that a Kurdish TV channel would be created.
So let’s support the Turkish government about the Kurdish opening and about its fight against the PKK terrorism. The Turkish army, the Turkish gendarmerie and the Turkish police are doing an outstanding job. If they were not efficient, there would be more terrorist attacks in Turkey.

The so-called politicians of the BDP/PKK are afraid and in panic because the AKP and Turkey (artists, NGOs, ….) are succeeding in resolving the Kurdish issue.
The government knows that it must create loads of jobs in southeastern Turkey, because that will contribute to the total destruction of the PKK which takes advantage of poverty to spread its propaganda. It is said that the colossal GAP (güney Anadolu projesi), the southern Anatolian project, will create hundred thousands of jobs. I’m very eager to see that.
The Kurdish issue is the biggest issue of Turkey, and the EU is involved. But there are other issues to deal with, such as the legitimate demands of the Alevis. I do support them.

Best regards,

Cem

PS. I suggest that very interesting declaration (published on the Hürriyet daily news) from the Turkish prime minister Mr Erdoğan (I wrote that article several weeks ago so I wasn’t inspired of what Mr Erdoğan said below. It is a coincidence. I guess one or several words are missing in the first paragraph after “are”, perhaps the words “not credible”):

“Kurdish politicians who claim to exclusively represent the Kurdish people are since they are pursuing discriminative policies, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said.

“One political party says that they are the representative of Kurds. Who granted this authority to you? It is discrimination. Today, our party is the one which draws more attention from Kurdish-origin population,” Erdoğan said at his party’s rally in Van, an eastern Turkish province with a high Kurdish population.

“They [Kurdish people] exist in both my Cabinet and the party’s executive board,” Erdoğan said while campaigning for the forthcoming referendum on constitutional reform.

Referring to the pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party, or BDP, Erdoğan said they had nothing to contribute to the east and the southeast of Turkey.

“We have so far made a 24.5 billion [Turkish Lira] investment in the east and southeast. The east got what the west got during our rule. We will continue our investments here. But what did the ‘representatives of the Kurds’ do? They have engaged in discrimination,” the prime minister said.”

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  1. Interesting post cem.

    Daniel O’Connell once said that ‘Irish freedom is not worth one drop of Irish blood”. Pity that many other Irish nationalist did not see things in a similar light. The sad fact is that the IRA and other Irish terrorist organisations killed hundreds of Irish people in the process of their ‘struggle’ and achieved absolutely nothing except division and hatred. These people were never ‘freedom fighters’ – simply terrorists.

    In South Africa MK, the paramilitary wing of the ANC were other so called ‘freedom fighters’. One could argue that given the brutality of the SA apartheid state they might have had a more legitimate claim in this respect. However, their actions were that of a terrorist organisation and they cared little for the loss of innocent life as a result of their tactics. Again MK achieved little other than increased hatred among the citizens of SA. It took a non-violent politrical approach by Mandela using dialouge and peaceful means to bring about reconciliation and a new south africa.

    I agree that the PKK are a terrorist organisation. Their tactics completely unacceptable in a modern democracy and will ultimately achieve nothing in terms of furthering the aspirations of the Kurdish people. All they will achieve in fact is greater bitterness division and mistrust.

    Turkey is no alone in having to deal with separatist movements. Spain has a very similar issue with ETA in the Basque region, and problems still persist in Northern Ireland for the UK (although the situation has imporved dramatically in recent years).

    Having said all that – Turkey cannot turn it’s back on the national aspirations of such a large portion of its population. Such national identity needs a form of expression and the role of the state should be to enable the expression in a way that is healthy and ultimately to the benefit of the nation as a whole. Good examples of this would be Catalonia in Spain, or Scotland within the UK. These regions have their own language and their own regional parilaments, but, still remain a part of the wider nation and share a sense of identity with fellow countrymen.

    My personal view is that the EU takes away the whole issue of separatism, while at the same time allowing greater expression to minority groups within certain regions of Europe. Ultimately, all 830 million citizens should seek to forge a new identity as EU nationals – while at the same time holding onto their unique regional identities – United in Diversity!

    The link below is an interesting look at the issue across the EU as a whole:

    http://www.disclose.tv/forum/europe-under-threat-from-separatist-movements-t13569.html

    As citizens of a wider EU we should not be worried too much about such changes to regions / states. However, we should take a very strong line aganist any group which seeks to achieve their aims by anything other than peaceful political dialouge. Terrorism must never be justified as ‘freedom fighting’!

  2. Good afternoon Brian,

    “Having said all that – Turkey cannot turn it’s back on the national aspirations of such a large portion of its population. Such national identity needs a form of expression and the role of the state should be to enable the expression in a way that is healthy and ultimately to the benefit of the nation as a whole. Good examples of this would be Catalonia in Spain, or Scotland within the UK. These regions have their own language and their own regional parliaments, but, still remain a part of the wider nation and share a sense of identity with fellow countrymen.”

    Several private kurdish TV channels and radios will be launched. Although that should have occured a long time ago, it is very positive and it is a revolution.

    I am not sure if we can compare the UK or Spain with Turkey.

    On the one hand, because the PKK is supported by foreign shadowy powers or lobbies which want to weaken and divide Turkey. That is a certainty. Thus the goal of the PKK and its foreign supporters is to destroy the territorial integrity of Turkey and to create a Kurdistan. As for the BDP, it states that it wants autonomy, but actually that autonomy is the first step for the creation of a Kurdistan.

    On the other hand, let’s remember that the goal of the PKK (in the long run) is to create a wider Kurdistan with the Kurds of northern Iraq (I hope that there will not be any conflict in northern Iraq), of Iran and of Syria. That is very dangerous. It is very dangerous to play with the frontiers of a country.

    To put it in a nutshell, I don’t trust the BDP, which besides doesn‘t curse the terrorists of the PKK. And I don’t believe that it only wants autonomy. I do not believe that it wants to share a sense of identity with the other turkish citizens. If there were not the PKK, perhaps that I would have believed the BDP. But the PKK assassinates people in Turkey and the BDP tolerates that, while at the same time wants autonomy. The BDP is not credible at all, so how can we trust it?

    “Ultimately, all 830 million citizens should seek to forge a new identity as EU nationals – while at the same time holding onto their unique regional identities – United in Diversity!”

    I do agree with you. We must unite as european citizens but without forgeting our roots.

    Regarding the number of the EU citizens, you wrote 830 millions. But there are nearly 500 million citizens in the EU.

    “As citizens of a wider EU we should not be worried too much about such changes to regions / states. However, we should take a very strong line against any group which seeks to achieve their aims by anything other than peaceful political dialouge. Terrorism must never be justified as ‘freedom fighting’!”

    As a turkish citizen, I am worried because of the PKK, above all because it is supported by foreign evil lobbies. As I have written above, I would not have been worried if the PKK didn’t exist.

    Through the PKK, some international lobbies aim at destroying Turkey. But Turkey will never be divided, because Atatürk, the founder of Turkey, engraved an exceptional imprint on the turkish national consciousness. An exceptional imprint which always gathered all the ethnically different Turks together since 1923. The Turks are proud of their country, and with the army, are the guarantors of the turkish republic ( http://turkey.blogactiv.eu/2010/06/29/appaling-propaganda-against-turkey/ + http://turkey.blogactiv.eu/2010/06/25/ataturk-and-the-positive-turkish-nationalism/ ).

    Regards, Brian

    Cem

  3. Firstly you are of course correct there are ~ 500 Million EU citizens today.

    Personally, I look at a larger number in terms of Europeans as I also consider the countries that have yet to join the EU, but, should do in due course – Turkey, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    It is exciting to consider the role that such a large population can play on the world stage once united. The real challenge, however, for EU leaders will be to foster this unity and ensure the emergence of a sense of common identity across the EU. This will be the biggest challenge for all Europeans this centuary.

    You made the statement that you cannot compare Turkey to the UK or Spain as foregin powers intent on destroying Turkey support the PKK.

    Consider the UK so for a moment. The IRA was supported by foregin powers (eg. Libya). It was also supported heavily by money and arms from citizens in the US, the Rep. of Ireland and Europe sympathetic to its cause. What did these folks have in mind by supporting the IRA, but, the destruction of the UK state. You may say this was not actually their intention, but, consider this. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland. The Union Jack flag is composed of the English flag (cross of st. george), the Scottish flag (cross of st. andrew), and the Northern Irish flag (cross of st. patrick). By definition the objective of the IRA – a united Ireland – leads to the destruction of the UK state. So the situation is not so different as with the PKK.

    Now lets consider autonomy in Scotland and what that may lead to in the future for the UK. Many in Scotland want a separate state outside the UK (but part of the EU). Currently, a majority of the Scottish population do not support this objective, but, if in time they did then why should the Scottish people not be allowed to realise their national ambitions – so long as they vote for such a separation via the democratic process.

    My personal view is that a separate Kurdish state would not necessarily be a disaster for Turkey. In fact, if such a state also encompassed the oil rich part of Northern Iraq and was a part of the EU – then this might very well be a benefit to both Turkey and the rest of the EU as a whole.

    The disaster currently is the way the likes of the PKK and their supporters are seeking to advance their cause. Terrorism is not the way to achieve political progress and it needs to be firmly oppossed by Turkey and the rest of the EU wherever it occurs. Dialouge, mutual respect and political engagement is the only way to move any conflict towards resolution.

    In the end I think it is important that we don’t let history play too strong a role in the definition of our future. There are lots of proud nation states in Europe with strong traditions. We need to respect this, but, not allow ourselves to be limited by the shadows of history. The future of Europe is ours to create and we all need to find a way forward that makes the most sense for the challenges we jointly face in the coming decades.

  4. Hello Brian,

    “Personally, I look at a larger number in terms of Europeans as I also consider the countries that have yet to join the EU, but, should do in due course – Turkey, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    It is exciting to consider the role that such a large population can play on the world stage once united. The real challenge, however, for EU leaders will be to foster this unity and ensure the emergence of a sense of common identity across the EU. This will be the biggest challenge for all Europeans this centuary.”

    I absolutely agree with you. Nevertheless, I am not sure that Switzerland, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan will be members of the EU. In the very long run maybe! But as the population of the EU is getting old, perhaps that it will be possible.

    “You made the statement that you cannot compare Turkey to the UK or Spain as foregin powers intent on destroying Turkey support the PKK.

    Consider the UK so for a moment. The IRA was supported by foregin powers (eg. Libya). It was also supported heavily by money and arms from citizens in the US, the Rep. of Ireland and Europe sympathetic to its cause. What did these folks have in mind by supporting the IRA, but, the destruction of the UK state. You may say this was not actually their intention, but, consider this. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland. The Union Jack flag is composed of the English flag (cross of st. george), the Scottish flag (cross of st. andrew), and the Northern Irish flag (cross of st. patrick). By definition the objective of the IRA – a united Ireland – leads to the destruction of the UK state. So the situation is not so different as with the PKK.”

    I think the situation is different.

    At first, the PKK was recognized as a terrorist organization by the European Union and the United States of America in 2004 only. In 2004. Whereas the PKK was created 30 years ago. Whereas it’s been killling people for 30 years. Why didn’t the EU and the USA recognize it as a terrorist group well before? Isn’t that revealing?

    Then, in the EU there is a TV channel making the propaganda of the PKK: Roj TV, which broadcasts from Denmark for a long time. How can an EU member tolerate the terrorist organization the PKK to create a TV channel with impunity? How can the whole EU tolerate that? That channel is official. How can the danish state let the PKK spread its propaganda? But at last, Denmark decided to sue Roj TV last week.

    Last but not least, the goal of some dark lobbies and politicians of the EU is to destroy the territorial integrity of the republic of Turkey in order to weaken it. Why? Because they can’t bear Turkey – a country of muslim religion – becoming a superpower, a superpower which would be an important economic and political rival.

    “Now lets consider autonomy in Scotland and what that may lead to in the future for the UK. Many in Scotland want a separate state outside the UK (but part of the EU). Currently, a majority of the Scottish population do not support this objective, but, if in time they did then why should the Scottish people not be allowed to realise their national ambitions – so long as they vote for such a separation via the democratic process.”

    Most of the kurdish-rooted citizens of Turkey don’t want of a separate country. And I have to underline that being kurdish or turkish doesn’t really mean anything since a huge number of kurdish-rooted citizens are married with citizens who are not of kurdish origin. Being turkish means being united in diversity, as Atatürk said it. And as you have written above yesterday regarding the EU citizens.

    Only the PKK and its supporters want to divide Turkey and create a Kurdistan. Not the kurdish-rooted turkish citizens.

    “My personal view is that a separate Kurdish state would not necessarily be a disaster for Turkey. In fact, if such a state also encompassed the oil rich part of Northern Iraq and was a part of the EU – then this might very well be a benefit to both Turkey and the rest of the EU as a whole.”

    In my opinion it would be a disaster and above all a treason towards Atatürk, who succeeded in gathering together thousands of soldiers (who were ethnically different) to fight for independence. Who succeeded in uniting millions of people ethnically different to create the secular republic of Turkey.

    Some powerful lobbies and some politicians of the EU have a complex about Atatürk and his soldiers’ victory against the european powers, which wanted to share out Anatolia. They still can’t bear that defeat of Europe, and the existence itself of the modern and secular Turkey founded in 1923 by Atatürk and his soldiers.

    These shadowy lobbies and politicians still have difficulty in swallowing the bitter pill of the defeat, though that defeat dates back to almost a hundred years. The european powers didn’t succeed in dividing and sharing Anatolia, but today some dark lobbies and politicians want to succeed at last by manipulating the kurdish issue and by helping the PKK.

    Some lobbies and politcians of the EU don’t tolerate the existence of Turkey because they don’t want Turkey to be a stronger country. In fact, they don’t want a country of muslim religion to be a superpower, that’s why they want to divide Turkey and enable the creation of a Kurdistan. That is crystal clear. That’s about religion.

    “The disaster currently is the way the likes of the PKK and their supporters are seeking to advance their cause. Terrorism is not the way to achieve political progress and it needs to be firmly oppossed by Turkey and the rest of the EU wherever it occurs. Dialogue, mutual respect and political engagement is the only way to move any conflict towards resolution.”

    The turkish government is resolving the kurdish issue. Let’s remind that the kurdish issue is about cultural rights, not about a Kurdistan. And that success of the AKP is disturbing the PKK/BDP and their european and american supporters.

    I want to repeat that the EU recognized the PKK as a terrorist group in 2004 only. That’s appalling. I don’t understand that delay.

    “In the end I think it is important that we don’t let history play too strong a role in the definition of our future.”

    I agree.

    I felt very bad last year. I was KO. And someone told me: “Let’s stop the past. Let’s work in the present for the future of tomorrow “. That was beautifully said ( http://turkey.blogactiv.eu/2009/12/09/turkey-and-greece-please-stop-losing-time/ ).

    “There are lots of proud nation states in Europe with strong traditions. We need to respect this, but, not allow ourselves to be limited by the shadows of history. The future of Europe is ours to create and we all need to find a way forward that makes the most sense for the challenges we jointly face in the coming decades.”

    I agree too.

    To conclude, I want to quote myself:

    “The nationalism advocated by Atatürk has always been the positive nationalism. And there is a revealing example which illustrates it.

    Atatürk said: “Ne mutlu türküm diyene”. In english: “Happy is the one who says I’m a Turk”.

    He didn’t say “….who is Turk” but “…who says I’m a Turk”.

    That is a thought that aimed and still aims at gathering together millions of people ethnically different in order to create a free nation.”

    Best regards,

    Cem

  5. Interesting – there is some further reading I need to do on Turkish history I think.

    Cem – a pleasure speaking to you my friend. I look forward to the day when Turkey at its 72 Million proud citizens are welcomed as fellow citizens of the EU.

  6. Your comments are very interesting too. I really appreciated them.

    The European Union will vote its new budget in 2014. Thus, in 2014 we’ll see if the EU will foresee the cost of the EU membership of Turkey.

    Perhaps that the politicians who object to Turkey’s EU membership are making from now on a strong pressure and propaganda so that the next budget of the EU doesn’t include some funds for Turkey.

    Well there are some people and politicians who object to Turkey’s EU membership because of money. But they ought to know that several countries received huge amounts of money from the EU: Greece received 100 billion euros since its EU membership, so did Spain.

    Anyway, Turkey will not receive a colossal amount of money because today the EU has more members than in the past, thence, the new EU members will receive less financial help.

    Besides, as an EU member, Turkey will contribute to the EU budget (owing to its important economy, its young population and its sound oil and gas reserves).

    By the way, Turkey has to spend (“invest” is a better word!) at least 70 billion euros for environment. The environment chapter of the EU-Turkey negotiations is the hardest one. Becoming an EU member costs money!

    I believe that Turkey will be a member between 2016-2020.

    However, let’s remember that France vetoed the EU membership of the United Kingdom twice.

    If France, Austria (and maybe Holland and Denmark) don’t say “No” to Turkey’s EU membership, I think that 2016-2020 are sensible dates.

    Regards,

    Cem

  7. Agree.

    Out of interest do you have a feel for what is the reaction in Turkey to this Pastor in the US burning the Koran today? It’s getting a lot of coverage in the media over here which is bizzare given that it’s just some nut job at a small red neck church in Florida. Are Turkish muslims really getting that upset about this?

  8. Good evening Brian,

    most of everybody knows that only crazy people can do that.

    The excellent and incredible actress Angelina Jolie Pitt said, while she was in Pakistan (owing to the disaster which hit 17 million people), that of course she doesn’t approve of that madness.

    Any sane person would curse the people who want to burn the Koran or the Bible or the Torah.

    In Turkey there are some extremists (who claim to be muslim) but they are a minority. Of course Turkey is not as Pakistan or Afghanistan. I don’t mock at these countries and I hope that one day they will get rid of the ideology of the islamists who don’t know what Islam or religion mean (there’s a huge difference between islamic and islamist).

    An extremist in the United States of America who claims to believe in God wants to burn the Koran in order to provoke his extremist counterparts of the “muslim world”!! (But at the same time he breaks the heart of the sensitive muslims in the world).

    That american extremist manipulates religion like the islamists.

    All our main religions say: “Thou shalt not kill”.

    http://turkey.blogactiv.eu/2010/01/04/all-our-main-religions-say-thy-shall-not-kill/

    I’m very happy that Turkey is a secular republic and that religion there is not so manipulated as in Saudi Arabia.

    Thanks to Atatürk, Turkey is secular.

    Best regards,

    Cem

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