This current article is the English version of my previous article that was published June 1st 2011. Nevertheless, I added one sentence about a mistake made by Tageszeitung that I should have introduced through the Turkish version.
The article below of ABhaber explains the bankruptcy of Greece:
Here are some translated extracts:
The measures taken by the European Union in order to save Greece (which is in a debt crisis) from bankruptcy are often criticized through the German media. According to the Berlin-based Tageszeitung newspaper, it’s not easy to save a country that hasn’t any strong controls and any competitive economic power:
“Greece is not a bad payer, it is a bankrupt country for ever. Even if half of the public debts was donated, it would be impossible to regain its competitive power. The debts would increase again.”
“But even if tax smuggling is prevented, Greece will not be able to be saved from bankruptcy.”
Tageszeitung is wrong on one point: regain is not relevant because Greece has never had a productive economy.
In fact, Greece is in a big crisis because its economy has no infrastructure. The Turkish economist Mahfi Eğilmez said on May 3rd 2010 – during an interview with EurActiv Turkey – that Greece will be in a new crisis within 10 years because it hasn’t a productive economy, because its economy can stand only through the financial aid of the EU and through the credits that it get from some international banks.
Mr Mahfi Eğilmez had again an interview with EurActiv Turkey yesterday (article in Turkish too).
I want to introduce some key details:
If the Greeks don’t accept to live below their unfairly obtained current standards, the solution to the crisis is not possible.
I’ve emphasized for nearly three months that the problem of Greece is an insoluble problem. That deadlock has a few basic reasons:
(1) The Greek economy doesn’t possess the power that could face with that magnitude. It has neither such an industry, nor a strength that could create a demand.
(2) On the other hand, thanks to the opportunities provided by the EU and to the debts that it get, the Greek society is a society that is used to living far beyond its possibilities.
(3) That overpossibility living appears to have developed into an habit. In that instance, Greece can’t reach a solution as long as that habit is not changed.
The working times in Greece are short but the wages are high. Only, the economy on its own is not in a situation to meet these high wages.
When one start living on their own possibilities and not on the money of somebody else (EU funds and indebtedness), it is evident that it’s not possible to carry on with supplying these high wages, gains and security social standards, on the contrary it is necessary to make some reductions.
That interesting conversation between Kerem Çalışkan, editor of EurActiv Turkey, and the economist Mahfi Eğilmez ought to be read fully, because it explains the crisis of Greece very well (incidentally, fortunately EurActiv Turkey was created. Every day it brings the EU and Turkey closer. It gives us hope. Moreover, we can be proud, because the journalists of that site containing a richness of information are doing an incredible job. Thank you EurActiv!).
During many years Greece purchased (and still purchases) a lot of arms from the EU, and these unnecessary expenses (by the way we have to underline that Turkey is not a threat) aggravated more the situation of its economy.
I am, as a French and EU citizen, against the eternal rescue of the unproductive Greece. Why would the taxes that I pay continuously be transfered to that country?
Furthermore, Greece still carries on a racist and far from being peaceful propaganda against Turkey at the European parliament. That has continued since 1981. Yes, since 1981. Unbelievable.
Thus that’s why the Greeks definitely don’t deserve more help.
Last year, during a CNN Türk morning meeting Şirin Payzın said that: Greece received for many years the EU funds. Now time has come to work.
We can help a country, I’m not against that. But I’m against helping a country all the time. That is my thought.
The problem with Greece is that it has been spending the money of the EU for 30 years but in the same time it has been carrying on a disgusting and unethical propaganda against Turkey. What an impudence.
So that’s the problem.
Greece is an EEC/EU member since 1981, but it has still not understood why the EU was created.
The EEC/EU was created to ensure the peace: after World War II, Robert Schuman and Jean Monnet founded the EEC in order to avert a new war with Germany.
The EEC/EU has reached its purpose (now the objective is the peace on a global scale).
The EU spirit is peace. Yes, we have to remember that Schuman and Monnet created the EEC on that spirit.
But Greece has never implemented the EU spirit: instead of helping Turkey (for instance against the PKK) it has been leading for 30 years an appalling propaganda against it.
Greece vetoed Turkey’s EU candidacy until 1999. And now, since 2004, it has been sabotaging Turkey’s EU membership with the Greek Cypriots (with the support of Sarkozy, Merkel and Austria, of course).
Until now, what endeavour has Greece shown in order to ameliorate its relations with Turkey? Is there any concrete example?
Greece constantly sabotages without shame Turkey’s EU membership. And let’s remind that formerly it vetoed during years the funds that the EU voted for Turkey. And in my opinion the ugliest behaviour is that one: during years it also blocked the participation of the Turkish students to the European Erasmus student program.
Do these appalling and despicable behaviours comply with the EU spirit?
Eventually, on the one hand Greece doesn’t deserve the EEC/EU memberhsip. On the other hand, it doesn’t deserve the EU financial aid neither. Because it is absolutely not worthy of the EU spirit created by Schuman and Monnet. In other words, because it hasn’t taken a single step for peace with Turkey, and unfortunately neither today.
On the contrary, Greece (its political and religious leaders) have always wanted to see Turkey as an ennemy, and they still do. Greece bases its nationalism against Turkey. In other words, the Greek religious and political leaders need an ennemy to give a signification to their existence, and according to them Turkey perfectly fits that role.
Greece lost the war against Atatürk and his soldiers but it has still not got over its defeat (together with many EU politicians and lobbies).
Abstruse. But that’s enough, we are in the 21st century.
Turkey isn’t the ennemy of Greece.
When will Greece display a good neighbourhood understanding with Turkey?
PS. Let’s stress that several months ago the president of Greece used hostile statements towards Turkey. And even the so-called Turkey friend prime minister of Greece Yorgo Papandreu used hostile statements. Mr Papandreu used these disgusting words at Erzurum, whereas the prime minister of Turkey Mr Erdoğan friendly and sincerely invited him for the opening of the Erzurum 25th University Winter Olympic Games. Not for controversy or showing hostility.
That was an unexpected treacherous and shameful behaviour from Yorgo Papandreu. I was very confused. But there was another reason about my confusion: I knew that he was a close friend of Ismail Cem. So that’s also why I was very indignant.
Yorgo Papandreu betrayed his friend Ismail Cem and Turkey. I’m sorry but it’s true.
Besides, last year Turkey’s prime minister Mr Erdoğan went to Greece together with several of his ministers as well as nearly 100 businessmen. Objective: to strengthen the peace between the two countries of the Aegean sea and support Greece against its economic crisis.
But by showing treason and ungratefulness this year at Erzurum, Greece’s prime minister (in the same time minister for foreign affairs) Yorgo Papandreu is proving that he is actually not worthy of Turkey’s support.
Moreover, owing to its anti-Turkey propaganda at the European parliament too Greece (hand in hand with the Greek Cypriots) is proving that it is by no means worthy of Turkey’s support.
That question is very important: will Mr Papandreu strive for the peace by joining Turkey, Mr Davutoğlu and Mr Erdoğan?
PPS. Let’s refresh our memory:
Is there an insane Cyprus game? (In that article of 2009 I suspected and mentioned for the first time the Cypriot conspiracy against Turkey’s EU membership).
I want to remind these 2 former articles of mine about Greece and the Greek Cypriots because the current objectives of the Greek Cypriots and the current situation in Cyprus are almost as the same as those of last year: Mr Mehmet Ali Talat and the Turkish Cypriot side say that the Greek side doesn’t work much for a solution.
Why doesn’t the Greek side strive for the peace?
Because the Greek Cypriots became (illegally) EU members in 2004, and they calculate how much gain they could get fom the Turkish side, in other words they try to blackmail it (but they monkey around in vain because the Turkish leaders stated several times that Turkey will not sacrifice the Turkish Cypriots for the EU membership. They will never desert them. That’s certain.).
But in the same time, the Greek Cypriots still exclude and humiliate the Turkish Cypriots at the European parliament (whereas in 2004, those who voted “Yes” to the – UN and EU – Annan peace plan were the Turkish Cypriots, while they did vote “No”): the Turkish Cypriots are still isolated.
The EU doesn’t stand to its commitment: it stated in April 2004 that it would lift the embargoes towards the Turkish Cypriots, but 8 years later the isolations are still apparent. The EU lost its credibility. As Mehmet Ali Talat formerly said, the EU approaches the Turkish Cypriots with racism.
(Several months ago a Turkish Cypriot singer gave a concert in South Cyprus, but during the concert dozens of Greek Cypriots nationalists attacked him and the Turkish Cypriots who came to listen to him. The singer was seriously stabbed in the back and since his state was serious he was taken to hospital. During that attack the Greek Cypriots policemen remained onlookers. Another example: a Turkish basketball team went to South Cyprus to play a match, but at the end of the match they were attacked by hundreds of Greek Cypriot nationalists. There was not enough policemen. Some other Greek Cypriot nationalists were waiting for the Turkish players in front of the door of their changing room with bats in their hands. After that racist event the president of the Greek Cypriots solely contented himself with saying that: Fools. Revealing assessment, isn’t it? Namely no reaction. That assessment summarizes the thoughts of the Greek Cypriot leaders towards the Turkish Cypriots. The Greek Cypriots see the Turkish Cypriots as second class Cypriot citizens. The last report of the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) published a few days ago confirms that. The report is available through that press release).
Notwithstanding, and in spite of the unhealthy situation in Cyprus, (I dealt with the Cypriot issue in December 2010 here (the French version is here)), I am in favour of the reunification of Cyprus, because if the peace materialises in Cyprus, it will be a – symbolic – peace example to the whole world.
PPPS. The EU membership of the Greek Cypriots is illegal for 2 reasons:
in the first instance, because neither the Turkish Cypriot side nor the Greek Cypriot side can (unilaterally) represent worldwide the whole island.
In the second instance, according to the EU rules, any country that has frontiers disputes can’t be an EU member.
It is crystal clear.
Then, by desobeying its own rules, why did the EU make the Greek Cypriots EU members before the wide open issue at Cyprus was resolved?
The EU membership of the Greek Cypriots is in violation of the international laws.
The Greek Cypriots will take over the EU presidency in July 2012. But if the Cypriot issue is not resolved before that date the situation will be very interesting, i.e. as far as the EU is concerned, the illegality of the situation will be more evident. And the EU will once more fall into disgrace.
Last but not least, as a Turkish Cypriot diplomat said a few days ago, the Greek Cypriots aren’t able to rule themselves, then how will they run the presidency of the EU which has a lot of problems?
Viewed in this light too the EU will lose face. Because the Greek Cypriots are among the most famous political clowns of the EU (a few EU observers of the Cypriot dossier said last year: The behaviour of the Greek Cypriot politicians at the European parliament is as the same as the one of the politicians of third world countries).
Must we laugh or must we grieve?
In my opinion we must have hope, because we can dismiss the incompetent political clowns with no vision at the ballot boxes.
Our future ought to not be shaped by the political clowns.cem